


Links to the three are at:

Tom Cobley has this year published his third – and he says last – book. Great effort.

I’ve just posted a 1970 recruiting video for Duntroon in the 1970 page of the Gallery, at https://duntroonclassof1972.com/gallery/1970-third-class/.
It works for me but would appreciate any feedback from your end.
Three photos just added to the Gallery – thanks to John Elphinston. One on the 1969 page (Fourth Class Boxing at https://duntroonclassof1972.com/gallery/1969-fourth-class/ ) and two on the 1972 page (both at Grad at https://duntroonclassof1972.com/gallery/1972-first-class/).
And another milestone – Bill Houston was farewelled from the Army History Unit today, ending his 50+ year career (uniformed and public service) with Army – although he’ll continue in a voluntary role at the Army Tank Museum in Puckapunyal (who would have thought?). Best wishes, Bill and Marina.
Note how times have changed. A whole table of food that has neither been consumed nor contaminated!

Subtended is the text of an email from John Elph (with addresses omitted) that you may have received, but just in case….
I hope you don’t mind me sending you another note regarding DFRDB commutation, but If you do, please just let me know and I won’t bother you again and I won’t be offended.
In case you didn’t keep a copy of the info sent to you by DFRDB ‘back in the day’, I’ve attached a copy of the only bit of paperwork that I held on to. Note that it is completely silent on the amount of time we would take a reduced pension to pay off our commutation.
You may want to use it for replying to the Ombudsman’s questionnaire.
Please also send to as many others who you think may have commuted and encourage them to submit an answer to the questionnaire. From what I have seen there are a few organisations/ well intentioned individuals who are pushing the same barrow but like many things do with ex-military, it does not seem to be well co-ordinated and also perhaps, seems to be split down officer vs OR lines which is a great shame. Seems to me that it is a topic worthy of our attention.
Cheers
John
From: Herb
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2019 8:57 PM
Subject: Commonwealth Ombudsman’s Inquiry into the administration of the DFRDB scheme
Dear John
The Commonwealth Ombudsman, has decided to commence an investigation into the administration of the DFRDB scheme with respect to commutation. Please refer to the Ombudsman’s Letter (click to open).
The scope of this investigation is limited to the accuracy of information provided by scheme administrators and relevant departments to DFRDB scheme members, in relation to commutation.
The Ombudsman has provided a Questionnaire (click to open). I encourage you to complete and email it to DFRDB.investigation@ombudsman.gov.au.
The Ombudsman doesn’t give a time-line but I’ll endeavour to establish what it is. I suggest you get your submission in sooner rather than later.
The new (or perhaps the same) Minister will undoubtedly pass this off as the Inquiry he announced, making a nonsense of his statement:
“The Government recognises the importance of open and transparent discussion around veteran concerns and we will consult with the ex-service community about the terms of reference for the inquiry, as well as panel membership.”
Kind regards,
Herb


Just added this new photo to the gallery at https://duntroonclassof1972.com/gallery/1972-first-class/ – a panorama provided by John Elphinston – thanks. There is plenty of space for more photos – they have been slow in coming!

Frank Edwards has sent a few photos of a catch up with Graham and Maxine Smith at Frank’s place in Margaret River. Good to see you both looking so well.


As the events in Christchurch unfold, we stand with our mates in NZ grieving this despicable, awful event and hoping and praying for a better world. A few words from our leaders:
Jacinda Ardern has said:
this “..is and will be one of New Zealand’s darkest days.
This is not who we are,
This is an unprecedented act of violence.
There is no place in New Zealand for such acts of extreme and unprecedented violence.”
The PM of Australia has said:
“Australia and New Zealand, we are not just allies, we are not just partners, we are family. As family members with our New Zealand cousins today we grieve, we are shocked, we are appalled, we are outraged, and we stand here and condemn absolutely the attack that occurred today by an extremist, right-wing, violent terrorist that has taken the lives, stolen the lives, in a vicious, murderous attack, that has claimed so many New Zealanders.
Australians stand with all New Zealanders today during this dark time where hate and violence has stolen their peace and innocence. Kia kaha (stay strong).”
Amen to both.
Back when Peter McCann first advised us of his successful claim to the Defence Force Ombudsman, Roger Simmons asked the very reasonable question: ‘Very, very interesting. I am not sure how it affects us overseas students.’ The news, I’m afraid, is not good.
Advice by email from the office of the Ombudsman is that: ‘The Ombudsman can receive a report of serious abuse in Defence by a reportee who was, at the time the abuse is alleged to have occurred:
A member of the Australian Defence Force, or
An Australian Public Service employee deployed outside of Australia, or
A Defence contractor engaged to provide services outside Australia, either in connection with an operation of the Defence Force or for the purpose of capacity building or peacekeeping functions by the Defence Force.’
This advice was reiterated during a later telephone conversation with a different Liaison Officer. She further advised that abuse by a non-Australian member was also not covered, so if you’re considering submitting a report please note that proviso. A couple of other points she made:
Frank Edwards (who served as CO/CI of CSC) and Maurie Meecham (who served as DMA) weren’t able to shed any light on whether NZ cadets had a special status that might render them as being in the Australian Army. That seems to be a forlorn hope, although the task has been passed to Tony McLeod to chase up from the Shaky Isles end. Frank’s reply, which he noted was his opinion, was consistent with Maurie’s response and is as follows:
‘Firstly, all authority must stem from the regulations or legislation that established DART and the Ombudsman role in it. Their answer says only ADF members (as we were as cadets) are covered. They would have no reason not to be accurate in their response.
Secondly, the status of the NZ Cadets. I had NZ Cadets (and other foreign nationals) at both OCS (when I was SI Field Training) and at RMC. They were never members of the ADF. As I recall, they were posted to the NZ High Commission Defence Staff (for duty RMC as students). The NZ Defence Adviser at the High Commission was their “legal” Commanding Officer in Australia. When Boards of Studies made recommendations on repeat or removal of a NZ cadet it went as advice to the NZ DA (with some involvement of the NZ Exchange Instructor). An official NZ response would come quickly and then be acted on (they rarely questioned any recommendation). I recall this process being used while I was at Portsea but do not recall seeing it used while CO CSC (generally all NZ cadets who got to RMC were pretty good as they had done a lot of pre-training in NZ). I recall that there was an arrangement that placed them under command for discipline etc, but “admin” remained the responsibility fo the NZ Exchange Officer and Warrant Officer at RMC (leave, travel etc). For example, I recall that their leave applications for term breaks went to the NZ Instructor whereas all Australian Cadets applications came to me. You would also recall they had different conditions of service back in our day (pay, leave travel, right to own vehicles in 2nd Class etc).
As an aside, I served at HQ ADF on DGJOP staff as SO1 Land Operations when a number of AS/NZ combined force operational responses were planned. A sticking point with every Australian JF Commander was the status of command of the NZ component of the JF. NZ never relinquished national command authority and reserved the right of veto over any order or activity that involved NZ defence force members. While the NZ component was “embedded”, they always remained under national command. I suspect similar provisions were contained in whatever agreement covered cadets.’
So, although our Kiwi colleagues underwent the same regime, it seems they will not have access to the same means of redress.
I’ll post this on both the Class of 72 FB page, and on the website.
The Army newspaper article has a mention of Kev Loughrey’s SLR – and the rest might be of interest too.
